How I Built a $3.3B Blockchain Business Against All OddsㅣKonstantin Richter, Blockdaemon
"As a founder, there's a kind of psychological fallacy where at some point you need to switch off your logical brain. This is because you're clearly working on a problem that nobody else sees."
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Intro
00:00There is this sort of psychological fallacy as a founder where at one point your logical brain needs to be switched off because obviously you're working on a problem that nobody else sees. I was working on the proof of existence protocol where we worked with an Ethereum node and I told people that I believe in a world where there will be 100,000 nodes that will be run by institutions by 2020.
00:23That's what I said. And people were laughing at me. I knew one thing for certain that if I hold on and deliver this, it'll be a massive win. And when I told other people about it, they didn't believe it at all. They were telling me we won't do that.
00:39And then Block Demon itself now runs 250,000 nodes, you know, and so you need to be stupid enough to also hold on to an idea that most smart people around you will tell you is a very bad idea. I'm Constantine Richtor. I'm the founder and CEO of Blog Demon.
00:59Blockdemon is the leading institutional gateway for institutions to connect to really blockchains and the web 3 ecosystem. And so we're one of the market leaders and staples of the crypto industry that it has JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and City Bank as investors and customers.
01:16Out of the top 500 companies active in crypto, 70% are customers of block demon for infrastructure. Ultimately, what we do is the purest form of infrastructure we run in a decentralized network. One easy
What is node?
01:32way to think about it is that the internet ultimately functions via different gateways and so do blockchains. And so one way I used to describe blockchains to people was you have ultimately nodes. A node are the different members of the network that contain a copy of the ledger.
01:47Nodes are actually like cell towers. It's these groupings of individual ledgers that make a blockchain. And Block Demon manages the individual ledgers. We basically run these cell towers for blockchains for institutions. We assume that we run around 10% of the global institutional volume of nodes around the world.
02:10Block Demon has raised around $430 million. The last valuation we've had was $3.3 billion. One memory I always have is
From Cold War Walls to Crypto Belief
02:22when the wall came down in Germany. I was a teenager at the time. I remember the cold war ending when the world somehow got a lot closer and also in the context of the history of Germany from the second world war being very aware that it's important to have systems that are uncorruptible in order to establish truth.
02:43And so I remember that time as a really important moment to think about how do we become closer as humanity? How do we communicate and then how do we ensure that the forms of communications are uncorruptible. What I found really exciting about Bitcoin specifically was one the immaculate conception story of Satoshi ultimately a value system that basically gets birthed by itself and then the people who can control it vanish in the background and leave it for the community.
03:12And I like the encryption and a little bit the sort of hackery nature of it. I did like that it was a currency of the underdog. Bitcoin was started as a result to the financial crisis in 2008. And the whole idea was to basically take control of money away from banks into a system that's transparent and fair and accessible to anyone.
03:34And um that excited me and I felt I can actually contribute to it because I know how to build and scale software companies and I know how to corral capital together to work on succinct problems and belief is important. I believed Bitcoin is one way to make the world better, but you also have to be an active part in creating that world.
03:53I didn't just want to make money. I also wanted to change the world a little bit. And I understand there's also lots of concerns and some of it might be bad, some of it might be good, but the system in itself I really hold very dearly. And so I was thinking what company in cryptocurrency can you build that is part of it but not so susceptible to the short-term velocity of tokens.
04:14And so that's why we started with
Keep Believeing, Even When No One Else Does
04:19infrastructure when I was working on the proof of existence protocol where we worked with an Ethereum node and saw that the physical node and infrastructure was very unstable and there weren't any tools available. When I started researching that subject and talking to my friends about it, I saw an opportunity and I got really excited about it.
04:40You know, it feels so great when you see a gap in the current product landscape. What was very apparent was like you couldn't go anywhere online and say, "Hey, is there a tool that helps me to run an Ethereum node really efficiently? Okay, if this is hard for us people who are really passionate about crypto and blockchain, how are institutions and banks going to engage in this if there's no tooling, nothing available?"
05:05What I saw is a world in which institutions would want to run these Ethereum nodes. And when I told other people about it, they didn't believe it at all. They were telling me we won't do that. But the more I learned about the structure of transactions, the cost of transactions, the more I saw the future in which blockchains become an integral part at this, I knew one thing for certain that if I hold on and deliver this, it'll be a massive win.
05:31I believed in the vision of the company to a point where nobody else believed it because obviously you're working on a problem that nobody else sees. I think that's the resilient part is then to continue to work on it while people are telling you this is not a problem.
05:46Why are you working on this? I remember raising money in 2017 2018. I told people that I believe in a world where there will be 100,000 nodes that will be run by institutions by 2020. That's what I said. and people were laughing at me. And then Block Demon itself now runs 250,000 nodes.
06:06Uh you need to be stupid enough to also hold on to an idea that most smart people around you will tell you is a very bad idea.
The Mindset That Survived Two Crypto Winters
06:20Within 6 months of starting the company, the markets of crypto fell down a cliff which we call the crypto winter which is like when the tokens that drive a lot of the momentum in blockchain suddenly devalue by like 80 90%. Everybody stopped investing.
06:34Banks started exploding. We had two banks at the time. One bank went bankrupt and so a lot of the inherent growth for the business dried up right when I started the company. You know, quite frankly, at that point in time, everything was so bad.
06:49We ran out of money a few times. Uh, I had to subsidize payroll, for example. The only way for Block Demon to survive is if I put in everything I have without a clear promise of a better market environment, and I just have to make it last as long as I can with as much output as I can.
07:06And so there were a lot of moments where it felt like wow I don't really have a believable path forward but still I have to convince people that there is one. As an entrepreneur that's your job ultimately you have to find resources where other people can't.
07:20You have to keep people motivated and inspired when uh it looks very bleak and uh you just have to keep on leading by example. [Music] The first one was block demon was very small. I think the second time around was unique because at that point we raised a lot of money.
07:40So we had a lot of capital. What was difficult is that we started 2022 by raising a lot of money buying companies to build a sort of really cohesive product suite that we thought we could sell within the year to institutions. And what happened is that market just died.
07:57There was suddenly a lot of pressure on ultimately scaling down the projects we worked on that created operational pressure on the company to how do we rightsize the company? How do we losing money in developing products that currently have no market?
08:14It was a lot harder because we had to make the hard choice to also let go of a lot of block demons and people that worked with us in order to um ultimately be operational efficient. changing strategies and letting go of people in order to adjust for a longer period of time without any growth of a more mature company.
08:34And so I'd say that crypto winter felt harder to me because obviously um losing people from your team because of that is really really hard. The way I describe it to people, it actually just felt like another Wednesday. You just take it on the chin and are like, "Okay, now I need to solve this problem."
08:53So you have to maintain an illusion of um competence and vision where like hey this is not a problem. This is just a little bump on the road. I know exactly how we're going to solve it. It's challenging because as a founder you know that a lot of the plans and thoughts I had very early on are assumptions.
09:11I don't know if they're right or wrong but I have to pretend I do. But you know I mean like anything else you just try to not tell yourself it's so bad and you just keep moving. and we found solutions for it. You know, um having a really strong team and people who uh have good integrity is really important in moments like that.
09:32And I'm very lucky that I do have a great team and people who stuck it out with me basically in a world where it's so hard
Survival Belongs to the Trusted
09:43for us to develop consensus between human beings when news and social media and everything is so um polarized and it's hard to know what's true and what's not that systems that are I want to air quote infallible and always true are really important.
09:59When the internet was created, people scammed people on the internet. I never thought the internet shouldn't exist. I thought there should be regulation and rules and education to protect people from scammers, but that the benefit of the technology of open access and trade outweighs the downside.
10:18If done correctly, crypto is the antithesis to scamming. It's fully transparent. It's traceable. You can see every wallet that's active on the network. And so it's actually the most scam resilient system at its core. I think it took us 3 years before institutions started engaging with us in order to engage with institutions.
10:40I think we also made the decision at the time that the only way institutions are going to engage with us is if they also own part of blockdemon are part of the governance of block demon. And so JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs for example have uh participate in the board of blockdemon.
10:57So they're basically also my bosses which means that they get to see the inside of the company. They get to question my choices. They're not just outside customers. They also in are parts of creating the company. And so I think that gave them a lot of confidence, right?
11:12And so that was an important initial step for the first customers. And the US has uh started to
Is This the Golden Era of Crypto?
11:19look very very different than it did in 2024. We see a huge shift that's uh materializing very quickly. The landscape of crypto will look really really different in the US with a lot more enterprises and institutions actively launching services uh for their respective customers around crypto.
11:38Uh I think in a complicated convoluted world that we live in transparency and efficiency are really really important. They're not a luxury. They're requirement for fair governance and efficiency. And so I think it is indeed a golden age for cryptocurrencies.
11:53Yes, I've seen it from it being the underdog to now becoming basically the not the main dog, but the standard, right? And so I think we're halfway there. And it's so exciting to be a fundamental part of something that I want to see it through.
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